Humiliation is ingrained in many historical events, notably wars. Across centuries, humans find themselves trapped in a recurring pattern of humiliation. This theme has grown more prominent in the current era, especially with COVID-19 fostering a global sense of interconnectedness and spotlighting the Russian-Ukrainian conflict. Author and anthropologist William Ury speaks to Point of Relation host Thomas Hübl, Ph.D., about the core of this cycle, advocating for empathy as the key negotiation tool.